Comic 147 - Meanwhile at the Park

11th Nov 2011, 1:56 AM in Beginnings
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view 11th Nov 2011, 1:56 AM edit delete
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The hoodie is, as you might have guessed, for cooling purposes.

... She ended up looking like that girl from that fighting game, though.

I hope it's clear that Takeshi isn't crying, he's saying "ball".

Comments:

Alec 11th Nov 2011, 2:08 AM edit delete reply
"girl from that fighting game"? Taokaka, you mean?.....sort of.

Also, Takeshi is so adorable I want to vomit.
view 11th Nov 2011, 2:36 AM edit delete reply
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I'm no good at children, so that's nice of you to say.
JasperWB 11th Nov 2011, 2:45 AM edit delete reply
JasperWB
I like the robot with the hoodie. It's the cute one!
jst56strong 11th Nov 2011, 2:41 AM edit delete reply
The robot is like less than 24 hours old and it can say words…. Da fuck? I thought robots were supposed to emulate humans in early life to get love from human friends and relatives.

Also, Nce job robot view the bab/robot/Hanukah list item is a perfect 42 on the metric cute scale.
view 11th Nov 2011, 2:46 AM edit delete reply
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I can't understand what you said in the second paragraph.

Robots have a startup advantage, which I thought I had made clear. They learn to speak as if they had a one-year head start on it. Hell, that's why he looks one already.
jst56strong 11th Nov 2011, 2:55 AM edit delete reply
to sum up i said nice job on the baby robot thing and that i want one. i want to be a dad and i dont want to put my gf through child birth or the manual labor it takes to raise a child the first few years
CrymsonWolf 11th Nov 2011, 3:25 PM edit delete reply
Well to be fair, this option does exist, they call it adoption.
duLapel 11th Nov 2011, 4:33 PM edit delete reply
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view said: "Robots have a startup advantage... They learn to speak as if they had a one-year head start on it."

And this makes sense. For humans, due to the limitations of the birth canal, the first year is devoted in finishing brain development. Real learning begins after that.
pancake 11th Nov 2011, 5:21 PM edit delete reply
is the hoodie a permenent fixture or is it just because of the heat? if it's permenent then why a hoodie? if not then how can she move her ears?
also, who's daughter is she?
view 12th Nov 2011, 5:31 AM edit delete reply
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It's just the heat: it's a cooling device that hooks into her internal systems.
WhiteAier 11th Nov 2011, 11:55 PM edit delete reply
Dear god Takeshi is so cute. I want one. :3
kill3st 12th Nov 2011, 9:30 AM edit delete reply
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Are the robots integrated enough into society to not be distinguished as separate from humans? I guess I am saying, are they ever considered as "possessions " vs legit members of society...
view 12th Nov 2011, 3:14 PM edit delete reply
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In this place, they have all the same rights as humans, and are not considered distinct except in that their medical requirements are very different.
Archduke 12th Nov 2011, 7:02 PM edit delete reply
If a robot is 'badly programmed' in a way that gives it personal/emotional handicaps, and it commits a crime (lets say serial killing and torture), does it get 'put down'? I mean I take it the person who designed it or who tampered with it would get heavily punished but what about the robot itself? Would it get put in a 'machine correctional facility' or something? lol
view 12th Nov 2011, 7:07 PM edit delete reply
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The rules for robot liability and culpability vary from region to region. Here, where indieVisible lobbying was most successful, a criminal robot is treated identically to a criminal human. However, this is very, very, very rarely a problem, since the modern expert system seeds are very well understood and polished.

If a robot gets in trouble for a crime, it's mostly a crime committed to prevent greater harm, or a crime that was created by bad laws (such as when Malaysia introduced the "robots must obey human commands" law).
pancake 12th Nov 2011, 9:27 PM edit delete reply
the culpability issue Archduke raised is interesting. for instance: if you maliciously make a robot with a killing instinct, it gets the blame and will be thrown in jail if it kills and you get away with it (as long as you claim it wasn't intentional)?
view 12th Nov 2011, 9:50 PM edit delete reply
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The only way you could do that is if you use an unapproved expert system seed. Then you've created a weapon or slave, both of which are illegal.
pancake 12th Nov 2011, 10:39 PM edit delete reply
so they have bypassed the problem by only legalising a set of 'seeds' (i must admit i am unsure of the meaning of that term).
i think that solution has it's own problems. bureaucratic bodies do not and for the most part cannot function like open source communities; for instance how do they update the set or patch errors (if patches are even necessary, obviously, given that i don't understand the nature of seeds) and who regulates which seeds are acceptale and which aren't and to what degree you are allowed to modify them?

also, how do you differentiate between a slave and an appliance? the table that went "Vweep" showed a glimmering of a consciousness.
view 12th Nov 2011, 11:52 PM edit delete reply
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An expert system seed is a specific copy of a well-understood algorithm with specific starting data. It is an expert system right off the bat, and then grows according to specific principles and algorithms into a sentience by using inputs, outputs, and quantum memory. It can also be "recompressed" (AKA "refactored") back into a seed by destructively reading the quantum memory.

"Starting seeds" are blank, no-memory seeds normally considered acceptable by the majority of AI experts - that is to say, algorithms and an expert system whose parameters can be tweaked within a given set of limits.

However, aside from this little town, most end users do not want a starting seed. They want a mature seed. This created a brief but extremely profitable trade in raising robots from a starting seed, refactoring them into a new factory default, and selling copies of the new factory default for use in many robot bodies right away.

This is the practice that indieVisible warred against. The idea of unsuitable starting seeds is really very minor, an AI research project more than an actual problem. The real problem was perfectly suitable seeds being used in very bad ways.
pancake 13th Nov 2011, 3:09 AM edit delete reply
what kind bad ways? muder or more blue white coller crimes?
view 13th Nov 2011, 3:47 AM edit delete reply
view
Huh? Mostly just slavery.

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