Comic 227 - Tears

16th Feb 2012, 8:58 PM in Filling in the Past
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view 16th Feb 2012, 8:58 PM edit delete
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I'm not a fan of Comipo for a weird reason:

When you are first beginning, you really suck at every facet of comics. But you're obviously a beginner. Everybody cuts you some slack. Well, everyone who's not a total ass.

If you use Comipo, it gives you some reasonable art. But the rest of you still sucks: the pacing, layout, story, dialog, and so on. But since you don't obviously suck at everything, it means you'll automatically get judged harshly!

Also, I think it probably makes developing those skills more difficult.

Edit: Wah! Let's ignore the very serious art problems on this page.

Comments:

ravenor78 16th Feb 2012, 9:24 PM edit delete reply
won't the stock of liquid for the tears run out unless she somehow has the ability to absorb it? cos she only just found out she could cry
view 16th Feb 2012, 10:33 PM edit delete reply
view
She doesn't plan on crying that much, but it's the same fluid she spits, if you remember her spitting last chapter. It's just "generic fluid".
Meh.Aloe 17th Feb 2012, 12:00 AM edit delete reply
Meh.Aloe
Eww, now Miwa is covered with robot spit... :P
cattservant 17th Feb 2012, 12:43 AM edit delete reply
cattservant
Robo-lymphmatics?
JasperWB 16th Feb 2012, 9:44 PM edit delete reply
JasperWB
Is it bad I don't know what the hell comipo is? Is this an unrelated rant?

Also I used to know both a priest and a therapist who used to put their watches on backwards and down their arm a bit so they could do just these kind of subtle moves. I thought it was innovative but Miwa has now made it a jerk move...unless she is looking at or for something?
iamjagman 16th Feb 2012, 10:10 PM edit delete reply
From the context he said it in, I'd assume it's some sort of comic making program that makes it really easy to make good graphics.
Googolplex 16th Feb 2012, 10:19 PM edit delete reply
Google it?
view 16th Feb 2012, 10:33 PM edit delete reply
view
A lot of ComicFury's comics are Comipo. There's a link to ComicFury at the bottom of the page, they're my hosts.
JasperWB 16th Feb 2012, 10:37 PM edit delete reply
JasperWB
I see. It's a weird comic posing program. Weird being the key word.
iamjagman 16th Feb 2012, 10:40 PM edit delete reply
A lot of the pictures I'm seeing on ComiPo's website look a bit off anyways... I wouldn't say using those makes it look like you have especially good art skills. Just in my opinion.
view 16th Feb 2012, 10:41 PM edit delete reply
view
Compare that to a real beginner's art. Normally, a beginner's comic art is almost incomprehensible.
JasperWB 16th Feb 2012, 10:49 PM edit delete reply
JasperWB
I never got those kind of programs. I mean using video games or real 3D programs to make comics is one thing, but to simulate a comic so you don't have to draw...if it makes people happy though.
view 16th Feb 2012, 10:52 PM edit delete reply
view
I wouldn't have an issue with it if it was for pictures, because that's what it makes. But in order to make comics, you have to have a basic understanding of the flow of comics. Actually, it's more important than your art.

I've been very, very, extremely conservative with this comic, largely because I'm too lazy to actually draw panels. But at least I have a basic understanding of how people read a comic.
JasperWB 16th Feb 2012, 11:15 PM edit delete reply
JasperWB
True. If you have a great story and plot it wouldn't matter if you then presented it badly, mde it incomprehensible and confusing. Or flow terribly. Though I have followed awful comics because I loved the art.

I'm intrigued though. I'd like to see even a single piece of work from you that was you at full force with art. Minus color. Or would the awesomeness make my brain melt?
view 16th Feb 2012, 11:16 PM edit delete reply
view
Ehh. I'm not bad, but it's not my thing.
JasperWB 16th Feb 2012, 11:20 PM edit delete reply
JasperWB
I don't mind this style. Focus on characters and action. Backgrounds only when it would be glaringly obvious it was absent. I just want to know what a very intense and non-conservative piece would look like from you.
view 16th Feb 2012, 11:22 PM edit delete reply
view
I mostly meant in terms of comic layout. I stick to gridded rectangles because it takes about four seconds to outline them all.
JasperWB 16th Feb 2012, 11:26 PM edit delete reply
JasperWB
Ah. Well things like circular panels with fancy borders that overlap for action are overrated anyway! I never really care about that stuff. Layout and panel size are it.
iamjagman 16th Feb 2012, 10:15 PM edit delete reply
You go into large amounts of detail sometimes...

Like on this one, I don't think many other artists would actually have made Miwa's strap loosen from when Gretel pulled on it last comic.

For some reason, that much detail throws me off a bit, but still, very nice!
view 16th Feb 2012, 10:34 PM edit delete reply
view
And yet you didn't complain about the lack of wet effects!

I actually forgot about them. Maybe I should go put them in...
iamjagman 16th Feb 2012, 10:36 PM edit delete reply
o.O didn't even notice. Spent 5 minutes trying to find that error you spoke of... fail...
view 16th Feb 2012, 10:41 PM edit delete reply
view
There were a few. Still are a few, but now it's better.
cattservant 17th Feb 2012, 1:13 AM edit delete reply
cattservant
Master view: They say, practice makes proficient and more practice makes even more better! <for what that is worth...>
Meh.Aloe 16th Feb 2012, 11:53 PM edit delete reply
Meh.Aloe
Miwa is comforting friends at an 83.5% efficiency! :D Certain to be done in record time.

I am having a hard time reading Miwa's body language in panels 3 and 4. Is she trying to avoid staring at Gretel crying so as not to make her uncomfortable? :O
view 16th Feb 2012, 11:56 PM edit delete reply
view
She's thinking "Jim's due at noon, did I waste too much time with the eco lesson part?"

... Not that I would expect you to be able to read that.
Meh.Aloe 16th Feb 2012, 11:58 PM edit delete reply
Meh.Aloe
Ahh, that makes sense. :P Naw, the last panel is a good hint for correctly reading those two. :)
Meh.Aloe 16th Feb 2012, 11:57 PM edit delete reply
Meh.Aloe
Also it just occurred to me that it is ironic (am I using that word right? I have no idea) that in this world robots are real people with feelings, yet in some ways Miwa, a "real" person, comes across as more of a simulation.

... But it's just so endearing. She really is being a kind and supportive friend, she just has... a practical approach to life... :P

I wonder to what extent her personality was shaped by that whole thing where she actually died and then was brought back to life.
view 17th Feb 2012, 12:12 AM edit delete reply
view
Pretty much 100%
cattservant 17th Feb 2012, 12:50 AM edit delete reply
cattservant
Miwa's mind has more tracks and switches than a railroad classification (hump) yard!
JasperWB 17th Feb 2012, 12:04 AM edit delete reply
JasperWB
So view...what the hell has Carol been up to this whole time? Heh. I know you know what your characters are doing at all times, even when no one else would ever know!
view 17th Feb 2012, 12:12 AM edit delete reply
view
She's on a field trip to Boulder, duh.
Meh.Aloe 17th Feb 2012, 12:18 AM edit delete reply
Meh.Aloe
She gonna kick their ass an' take their gas!


... Sorry. >.<
view 17th Feb 2012, 12:20 AM edit delete reply
view
Nah, you're right.
JasperWB 17th Feb 2012, 12:24 AM edit delete reply
JasperWB
Thank you, that's right. The testicle assault. She really must have given them time and they failed. Sexy anger.
cattservant 17th Feb 2012, 12:57 AM edit delete reply
cattservant
She is gathering "teeny-tiny" nuts... <to refine for oil> If Boulder has run out of petroleum, what will they pay the patent royalties with?
view 17th Feb 2012, 1:09 AM edit delete reply
view
They'll just stop paying. I mean, who's going to enforce the patent law?

She's actually negotiating to convince them that there's more tech that's going to be coming out of their little town, so they should stay buddies. "Pay or no more", basically.
cattservant 17th Feb 2012, 1:21 AM edit delete reply
cattservant
Politics get a lot more focused and practical when government gets down to the city-state level. I hope things are heading in to a neo-renaissance era.
Meh.Aloe 17th Feb 2012, 1:28 AM edit delete reply
Meh.Aloe
Either that, or armies of hoplite robots.
cattservant 17th Feb 2012, 1:40 AM edit delete reply
cattservant
And a clockwork Leonidas to lead them?..
CyberSkull 17th Feb 2012, 12:55 AM edit delete reply
CyberSkull
Panels 4, 5 & 6 are each wonderful in their own ways. :D
CyberSkull 17th Feb 2012, 12:55 AM edit delete reply
CyberSkull
Also, where can I get a wristwatch like that?
view 17th Feb 2012, 1:10 AM edit delete reply
view
Replace your arm with a cooler mechanical version.
CyberSkull 17th Feb 2012, 2:11 AM edit delete reply
CyberSkull
I am down with that.
cattservant 17th Feb 2012, 1:57 AM edit delete reply
cattservant
Master view: A historical background question <if you want>; The physical/ecological disasters were a heavy blow to government (national) which responded with the building of the refugee cities. These eventually failed. Was this the end of national government? The present situation seems to be one of 'city-states' and frontier outposts. Was there (or is there) a mad-max element to this? Where are things on the old 'Peace&Prosperity' meter? <so to speak>
view 17th Feb 2012, 2:10 AM edit delete reply
view
Ehhh, who knows?
cattservant 17th Feb 2012, 2:26 AM edit delete reply
cattservant
Just not here then... Also I just noticed, Gretel is looking quite smug in the last panel. (Or maybe just simply happy...)
Sebine 17th Feb 2012, 3:18 AM edit delete reply
Sebine
Miwa Bewbs :3
Karetron 17th Feb 2012, 8:22 AM edit delete reply
11:4... something. When she died and was reborn?
cattservant 17th Feb 2012, 12:35 PM edit delete reply
cattservant
A literal wrist watch. (She's getting late for an important date...) <besides, the trains do have to run on time!>
Guest 14th Nov 2016, 8:44 AM edit delete reply
For me the main reason I don't like Comipo comics is that they're all in the same style, plus the shading is more realistic than cartoonish so Comipo art falls in the uncanny valley.

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