Comic 229 - Toughie

19th Feb 2012, 8:09 PM in Filling in the Past
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view 19th Feb 2012, 8:09 PM edit delete
WAAAAALLLLLL OOOOFFFFFFF TTEEEEEEXXXXXXTTTTTT! And some swishy-wishy camera to try and distract you from it!

I completely changed how I sketch the panels. Hm.


JasperWB 19th Feb 2012, 8:24 PM edit delete reply
You're funny. You don't know what a true wall of text looks like. This page is fine, it can't all be spastic action! Also, I like Mary's face at the end. Proof that a lazy doodle can have the best results.
view 19th Feb 2012, 8:54 PM edit delete reply
The best faces are always two dots.
JasperWB 19th Feb 2012, 9:11 PM edit delete reply
Indeed. Hence the emoticon. Everyone but me hates them now, but they still make me feel special and important when I get one!
cattservant 19th Feb 2012, 10:37 PM edit delete reply
Refined down to the exact information needed to convey...
JasperWB 20th Feb 2012, 12:57 AM edit delete reply
LazyRanger 9th Sep 2012, 3:31 AM edit delete reply
The best faces are two dots. There's just something about it which makes them good. :P
cattservant 19th Feb 2012, 8:33 PM edit delete reply
A dynamic page where nothing happens... Information is good, subtle character development is even better!
view 19th Feb 2012, 8:53 PM edit delete reply
Often, these pages answer questions raised by earlier pages. But since I usually get asked those and answer them in the comments section, it's always a bit weird to put out a page with the same answers.

"As you know, Bob, he lost three years..." "Yeah, you said that, like, five times already."
ravenor78 19th Feb 2012, 10:02 PM edit delete reply
do you prefer that we not ask these questions that spoil oh master view?
Meh.Aloe 19th Feb 2012, 10:09 PM edit delete reply
I think this page is a very natural way to clarify things for readers who might be lost and don't read the comments. I think it is a good page. And yeah, this ain't no wall'o'text at all!
cattservant 19th Feb 2012, 10:27 PM edit delete reply
Be weirded not Oh Master view. Putting it on the page makes it canonical.(Many people don't pay attention until they have to!) To paraphrase <can't find the quote> Tolkien; The Hobbits liked to have their books contain information they already knew, written down fair and square for all to see.
view 19th Feb 2012, 10:38 PM edit delete reply
Well, this is how it was scripted. You folks asking questions ahead of time doesn't usually change what I put in the comic, but it does make it feel odd.
cattservant 20th Feb 2012, 12:46 AM edit delete reply
It does make it easier for you to throw us a curve ball when you want to!
Sheela 21st Feb 2012, 7:12 AM edit delete reply
Well, if you want it to feel less odd, just think of the people who will eventually read it in paper one day ... they won't have the comments section. :)
Archduke 19th Feb 2012, 10:10 PM edit delete reply
It's funny that he really doesn't appear to have changed much at all despite being 3 years back - as far as I can tell from these two pages at least. Remarkably mature for the 12(?) year old he's supposed to represent.
JasperWB 19th Feb 2012, 10:15 PM edit delete reply
I myself was at my prime at 12 to 14. It's been a steady decline since.
cattservant 19th Feb 2012, 10:32 PM edit delete reply
Sir Archduke: I think so too. He seems to have a firm grasp on a well crafted personality. (In some ways, it must seem more as if everyone else has leaped away while he remains unchanged...)
view 19th Feb 2012, 10:40 PM edit delete reply
Actually, he was 12 before - his sister just turned 13. This is his "tween" body, just like Gretel's new body is her "teen" body. The bodies are intended to look like they are at the upper end of the age bracket.

He's not really as mature as he seems, it's just his stoic face doesn't do "nervous" or "disoriented" expressions. Just like Gretel always appears wide-awake and energetic - sure, she is, but it's also a function of her face.
cattservant 19th Feb 2012, 11:02 PM edit delete reply
More dynamic tensions between outer and inner appearance. Can't the builders of robot bodies provide more 'human expressive' faces, or don't they want to? Perhaps it's too far up the trail into Uncanny Valley?..
view 19th Feb 2012, 11:26 PM edit delete reply
It's easy to make more expressive faces, but remember that Hansel & Gretel are robot children of pretty inhuman robots. The whole family rather wallows in being robots, rather than in fitting in.

There are more expressive robots.
cattservant 19th Feb 2012, 11:39 PM edit delete reply
Ahh!.. That's right... More a case of cultural 'genetics' and/or family tradition. I can't help but 'feel' that there are <if not a herd> at least several elephants in Nowheresville's social-political-species room!
view 19th Feb 2012, 11:56 PM edit delete reply
Oh yeah, but that's not really part of the story.
cattservant 20th Feb 2012, 12:08 AM edit delete reply
Being invisible makes them easy to ignore... Thank you very much for making such an interesting frame for your picture!
Archduke 20th Feb 2012, 7:10 PM edit delete reply
Well it still beats being that 'Hoplite' robot kid...
Anon 20th Feb 2012, 5:28 AM edit delete reply
Like smiling dolphins?
cattservant 20th Feb 2012, 7:16 AM edit delete reply
I bet the fish don't think they are smiling...
Jst56strong 20th Feb 2012, 1:50 AM edit delete reply
Nice page view. i like the new lay out
view 20th Feb 2012, 2:00 AM edit delete reply
Jst56strong 20th Feb 2012, 2:11 AM edit delete reply
it just looks kinda diffrent then what you ussaly post.
cattservant 20th Feb 2012, 2:37 AM edit delete reply
How did Mary know that Jim 'wanted to chat' with Hansel? Was it discussed 'off stage', did she get a 'vibe' from Jim, or did she 'think' he should do it? <or something else entirely>
view 20th Feb 2012, 3:03 AM edit delete reply
Ahh, the adults are all cooperating in a plan to help the kids recover, as you'll see in a bit.
cattservant 20th Feb 2012, 3:24 AM edit delete reply
<See!, it was something else entirely.> I hope they aren't trying to do it secretly, because <with the possible exception of Gretel> they aren't going to out smart any one of the 'fearless four'! [(Nameless Blond Kid needs a name.) {contest perhaps?} <nudge nudge>]
view 20th Feb 2012, 3:34 AM edit delete reply
... you really use a lot of random symbols. Are you asking what blondie's name is?
cattservant 20th Feb 2012, 3:41 AM edit delete reply
Well... yes. <but in a as non-pressuring and humble way as possible> (random symbols to bracket cascading levels of thoughts)
view 20th Feb 2012, 3:45 AM edit delete reply
I'm gonna call him "Elvis", because everyone was suggesting things like "Bob" and "Joe".
cattservant 20th Feb 2012, 3:49 AM edit delete reply
A fine dignified historical name by the time of story-now. Thank you, thank you very much!..
JasperWB 20th Feb 2012, 4:32 AM edit delete reply
He looks like a Joseph. I stand by what I said. Not Joe, not Joey, but Joseph! I don't see what's so wrong with that name lol
view 20th Feb 2012, 4:51 AM edit delete reply
Nah, his name's Elvis. And his middle name is Shemp.
cattservant 20th Feb 2012, 4:57 AM edit delete reply
JasperWB 20th Feb 2012, 5:00 AM edit delete reply
You loathe me don't you?
view 20th Feb 2012, 5:04 AM edit delete reply
I dunno, is your name "Joe"?

Fuckin' Joes, all up in my grill.
JasperWB 20th Feb 2012, 5:09 AM edit delete reply
And if the answer was yes? But I ain't even on yo sneakers yet, let alone yo grizzille. I cut a man for less though.

But let's bury the hatchet. You can hate Joes, but forgive the Josephs and Joeys.
cattservant 20th Feb 2012, 5:07 AM edit delete reply
At least Master view is being consistent, sticking with 20th century entertainers. (Other than that; "I Know Nothing!!!")
CyberSkull 21st Feb 2012, 10:43 PM edit delete reply
I'd probably take comfort in that too.